Friday, April 20, 2007

5th Lubavitcher Rebbe and Sigmund Freud?

I was listening the first to a shiur on the website given by Dr. David Pelcovitz titled, "The State of Depression and the Jewish Community: Its Prevalence and Profound Impact on the Individual, Family and Community." Dr. Pelcovitz starts out with a story, relating that the Tzemach Tzedek, the 3rd Lubavitcher Rebbe, suffered from some sort of depression and traveled to Vienna to meet with the famous Sigmund Freud. However, after looking up their bios, this seems unlikely being that the Tzemach Tzedek died in 1866, with Freud being born in 1856. Thus, the oldest Freud could've been at such a meeting was 10 years old. While he was undoubtedly a genius in his field, I find this unlikely.

After doing some research online (OK, only a Google search), it seems that it wasn't the 3rd Lubavitcher Rebbe, but the 5th that did, in fact, meet with Freud. Rabbi Shalom Dov Ber Schneersohn (known as the Rashab) was, apprently, having trouble living in the shadows of his father and grandfather, when he made the trip to Vienna to meet with Freud. A scholarly article published in the "Psychoanalytic Review" opines that the writings of the Rashab changed after meeting with Freud, and suggests that Freud may have been influenced by the Rashab, as well.

An interesting read, even if it is overly psychoanalytic/Freudian (v'ha'mayvin yavin). (Article here)


Blogger nyfunnyman said...

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11:25 AM, April 20, 2007

Blogger nyfunnyman said...

the next time i hear pelcowitz tell that story will be 100th. he's awesome, but he has got to get some stories from his father.

11:51 AM, April 20, 2007

Blogger ADDeRabbi said...

i read that article in a grad school class i took with the author, stanley schneider.
i think he's totally grasping for straws (and that's saying it nicely).

12:13 PM, April 21, 2007

Blogger AlanLaz said...

Agreed. But, some would say that the whole psychoanalytic theory is a bunch of hogwash...

8:35 PM, April 21, 2007


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